LightningPaul

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Passing Metro Magenta


I love typical urban shots, especially of the underground. This one is made in the subway station Magenta in Paris. Besides the riding metro, which is pretty cool, the ceiling looks awesome.

As always, I'm very happy with all the comments and visits from all of you. I really tried to reply all of them but since I'm so short of time, from now on I'll only answers questions or certain specific comments you post. I hope you forgive me. Though I will visit your photo blog whenever you leave a comment. I really love to see your images too.


TECH-INFO: one RAW file, hand held. I developed three exposures in DxO Optics Pro. Initially I tried Photomatrix for merging and tone mapping but I didn't fully like the result. There was too much noise in the train and the lighting was looking slightly too surreal. Luckily I found a nice piece of donationware: Picturenaut 3.0. The HDR program can merge exposures into HDR files and tone map them using four different methods. I didn't play so much with it yet but so far I can get pretty natural looking results, though it's not easy to tweak and understand the parameters. But on the other hand, I had the same problem in Photomatrix Pro when using it for the first weeks.
After tone mapping I loaded the result in Photoshop for more processing. The contrast is boosted and I used the channel mixer and the B/W tool for conversation into black and white. By applying masks I used the two different B/W conversions on separate parts of the image. The goal was to minimize noise. Finally I used Noise Ninja to get rid of the bit of noise which I couldn't avoid (that was due to the many contrast enhancements). At the end I used Real Grain to add lots of noise all over again :-D

You could compare this with the process of making mineral water: they take water, remove all salts and other elements, then they add the proper combination of minerals to obtain the right taste.

I was having lots of doubts to post this image or not. I really like the view of the ceiling, the passing metro and cool lamps but on the other hands it's maybe not the best image I could post. Also I'm trying to experiment with stronger contrasts, B/W, grain and other kind of looks. Feel free to give any kind of critics.


Passing Metro Magenta


I love typical urban shots, especially of the underground. This one is made in the subway station Magenta in Paris. Besides the riding metro, which is pretty cool, the ceiling looks awesome.

As always, I'm very happy with all the comments and visits from all of you. I really tried to reply all of them but since I'm so short of time, from now on I'll only answers questions or certain specific comments you post. I hope you forgive me. Though I will visit your photo blog whenever you leave a comment. I really love to see your images too.


TECH-INFO: one RAW file, hand held. I developed three exposures in DxO Optics Pro. Initially I tried Photomatrix for merging and tone mapping but I didn't fully like the result. There was too much noise in the train and the lighting was looking slightly too surreal. Luckily I found a nice piece of donationware: Picturenaut 3.0. The HDR program can merge exposures into HDR files and tone map them using four different methods. I didn't play so much with it yet but so far I can get pretty natural looking results, though it's not easy to tweak and understand the parameters. But on the other hand, I had the same problem in Photomatrix Pro when using it for the first weeks.
After tone mapping I loaded the result in Photoshop for more processing. The contrast is boosted and I used the channel mixer and the B/W tool for conversation into black and white. By applying masks I used the two different B/W conversions on separate parts of the image. The goal was to minimize noise. Finally I used Noise Ninja to get rid of the bit of noise which I couldn't avoid (that was due to the many contrast enhancements). At the end I used Real Grain to add lots of noise all over again :-D

You could compare this with the process of making mineral water: they take water, remove all salts and other elements, then they add the proper combination of minerals to obtain the right taste.

I was having lots of doubts to post this image or not. I really like the view of the ceiling, the passing metro and cool lamps but on the other hands it's maybe not the best image I could post. Also I'm trying to experiment with stronger contrasts, B/W, grain and other kind of looks. Feel free to give any kind of critics.


comments (9)

Quite a lot of work Paul but it does make for a different and interesting image. I like the way the HDR processing has handled the movement of the train, giving the image another dimension.

The only change that I perhaps would have made would be to burn in the very light area above the lamp just a touch as I think it tends to draw the eye.
LightningPaul: Many thanks for your comment, I really appreciate it. I fully agree to burn in the area above the lamp. I'll keep that in mind for similar situations.
Great vanishing point shot!
  • zed
  • Australia
  • 8 Sep 2009, 07:14
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and in the creators vision, you have a created a very different image and l liked your explanation of how you produced it.

cracking image imho
LightningPaul: Thanks smile
Superbly done Paul. We could feel like being in a museum!
LightningPaul: Hmmm, a museum with moving metro's? smile
  • frisky
  • United States
  • 8 Sep 2009, 13:47
beautiful lights and grains...
LightningPaul: I'm glad you like the grain. I had to choose between two types "film grain" and "digital noise". I took the latter because it was looking much better.
nothing much wrong here Paul, think Les is quite right about the light which does distract a wee bit but other than that it blooming marvelous, like a scene from a sci-fi filmsmile
LightningPaul: Thanks, your comment is very helpful. I'll really pay attention to that in the future.
  • Padraig
  • United Kingdom
  • 8 Sep 2009, 22:21
I really like this shot Paul...all your hard work seems to have paid off. apart from maybe going to all those lengths to remove the noise before putting it back.haha.

You've probably heard of it but I've been using a PS plug in called silver efex pro its quite good, you can do selective conversions and it emulates lots of different film types and sppeeds...its worth a look at.
LightningPaul: Many thanks for your comment. Indeed I heard of silver efex pro. For the moment I still want to concentrate on learning the tools of PS, later I can try some (new) plugins.
Things start to look like this after too many glasses of red wine Paultongue
LightningPaul: LOL :-D
You have discovered the secret of making my images smile
  • Travis
  • United States
  • 17 Sep 2009, 18:33
I must say that your recent ultra-wide images have got me shopping for a new lens. Nice work.
LightningPaul: Wow, great to hear that smile !
If you use crop factor 1.5 or 1.6, then go for a 10mm. Eg the Canon 10-22mm might be fantastic. I really wish you lots of fun using ultra wide angle. It will give you lots of perspective in your images.

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