LightningPaul

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photoblog image Lantarn in Central Warsaw

Lantarn in Central Warsaw

Close to the Cultural Palace and central station in Warsaw, capital of Poland. The view is captured at the end of 2008 at 16h30. It's pretty amazing but around that time of the year it's getting dark at 15h30. Way in too early in my opinion.


TECH-INFO: I wanted to capture the lantern and the buildings, so on a tripod I shot 9 JPGs with each a stop difference. Unfortunately this was not enough to capture the huge dynamic range of light. The darkest image still contained blown out areas of the lantern lamps while the brightest image was too dark to capture all the details of the buildings. This means that the background stays pretty dark. I was not so happy but after a while I started to like the result a lot. At least the lantern is pretty bright.

In Photomatrix I used the exposure blending function to merge all images. Afterwards I adjusted the result in Photoshop using masked curves and removed the lens flare except the part around the lantern. The latter was causing heavy flaring in my lens. Finally I did a slight crop.

People talk about flaring and ghosting, I was wondering again about the difference. Using google I found this nice page demonstrating it using two images.

Lantarn in Central Warsaw

Close to the Cultural Palace and central station in Warsaw, capital of Poland. The view is captured at the end of 2008 at 16h30. It's pretty amazing but around that time of the year it's getting dark at 15h30. Way in too early in my opinion.


TECH-INFO: I wanted to capture the lantern and the buildings, so on a tripod I shot 9 JPGs with each a stop difference. Unfortunately this was not enough to capture the huge dynamic range of light. The darkest image still contained blown out areas of the lantern lamps while the brightest image was too dark to capture all the details of the buildings. This means that the background stays pretty dark. I was not so happy but after a while I started to like the result a lot. At least the lantern is pretty bright.

In Photomatrix I used the exposure blending function to merge all images. Afterwards I adjusted the result in Photoshop using masked curves and removed the lens flare except the part around the lantern. The latter was causing heavy flaring in my lens. Finally I did a slight crop.

People talk about flaring and ghosting, I was wondering again about the difference. Using google I found this nice page demonstrating it using two images.

comments (11)

  • zed
  • Australia
  • 19 Feb 2009, 03:06
Your images are always so meticulously prepared, it must take forever. ? why use jpg over raw files, l have just started playing with photomatrix
LightningPaul: Thanks Zed! It takes indeed some time. Mostly half hour, sometimes a full hour.
Since I take multiple JPGs with different exposures I have enough exposure information, more than using one RAW file. For Nikon, all RAW converters except Capture NX and View NX, really mess up the colors, especially for portraits. I try to avoid RAW if I can. Also RAW files fill up my memory card very quickly when I'm shooting multiple exposures (every time 7 or 9 files) and they mostly don't give any benefit when using them for making HDR files. Besides that , the make the processing time longer.
I do (like to) use RAW when I don't shoot portraits, need as much possible data for post processing and I can't shoot multiple exposures. In all other cases it's mostly JPG.
This is a tough one alright Paul. Did you try metering directly off the light first to get the median image before bracketing either side? THis would give you the "Darkest" image while having a perfect light.

All that being said, this is a pretty good representation of the scene I think

Cheers
Rob

Cheers
Rob
LightningPaul: Mostly I read the matrix metering of the camera and do some over exposure of one stop. When shooting 9 pictures I cover the full range of light. I think in this case I didn't over exposure and highly probably I focused on the very bright lantern (which influence the matrix meeting). What you suggest would have been indeed the best method. I'll remember fo next time. Many thanks for your idea.
  • vintage
  • Australia
  • 19 Feb 2009, 10:20
I do like the lantarn
LightningPaul: I do like your comment smile
Thanks for visiting.
I love the contrast between buildings and lamp. Very nice
LightningPaul: Indeed due to the underexposure of the buildings I get a nice contrast with the lamp. Thanks for mentioning it, I didn't look at it that way.
Preciosa! La lampara te ha quedado espectacular. Cada dia te salen mejor los HDR.
LightningPaul: Many many thanks for your comment. I'm happy you like my efforts of using the HDR technique.
  • Padraig
  • United Kingdom
  • 19 Feb 2009, 22:11
Interesting stuff Paul, and nice shot, I love the the lamp along side the buildings. I have tried hdr and multiple exposures only once or twice and have yet to throw myself in it but I will sooner or later.

I didn't know the difference untill I clicked your link, and it turns out what i thought was flare is ghosting! cheers.
LightningPaul: Thanks for your comment. Have lots of fun tone mapping HDR images. Don't forget to experiment a lot. My main use is for details enhancement and covering extreme dynamic ranges mainly in night shots.
About flaring and ghosting: I also mix them up too.
Sometimes they group the two term just under flaring, which is OK for me. The cause is the same.
  • Beth
  • United States
  • 20 Feb 2009, 11:48
Great composition. I love the effect of all the different lights. Thank you for explaining the technical info behind the photo!
LightningPaul: Many thanks for your comment and visit. I'm very happy you like the tech info. It means I should continue providing it.
Great capture - and we do appreciate you tech info!! Nigh photography isn't easy - you have done a wonderful job on this one!
LightningPaul: I'm delighted with your comment. It also keeps me motivated to write the tech-info.
  • Ilan
  • Israel
  • 20 Feb 2009, 17:19
Wow... That so much work but it was worth it!
The lantern looks superb, before reading your post I was trying to guess how did you sucsseeded in that exposure.
Great work!
LightningPaul: It's great you first look at the image and then read the info. For many shots, especially when made using strobes, I try to reverse engineer them.
  • Doum
  • Canada
  • 23 Feb 2009, 17:06
I think you control the light in your environment Paul! Also you knows every parameter of your camera... Bravo, all items perfectly exposed.
LightningPaul: Although I understand much more of controlling light, I still think I can raise a few level, but I have plenty of time to do that. Many thanks for commenting.
  • Tero
  • Finland
  • 24 Feb 2009, 06:06
The light in the lamp is fantastic!
LightningPaul: Thank you!

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camera NIKON D200
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aperture f/8.0
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